. >> do you think geithner in this administration and the previous administration, geithner and bernanke and larry summers have done a good job in hemming the financial sector as well as -- >> you know, 2020 hindsight is a specialty in this country and now we're having all kinds of hearings. but at the time this thing hit us in a significant way, those guys were working 18, 19 hours 0 day. they were making decisions with the information that they had available. they made mistakes. but the bottom line is, the system is still working. we are making progress. >> and we averted disaster. >> we averted two or three disasters. and i, therefore, applaud what they did, and if you notice, we support what they did. were there errors? sure. >> did i make judgments that weren't perfect? you bet. >> what does the chamber think about the boca rules. >> chairman volkert is a very smart man. and he raises a thoughtful argument. that press conference with the volkert rules and things the political guys threw in that was not naferred by geithner and sumners. but the volkert rules make since with one excep